Mama's Writing

Lori Tharps | Mama’s Writing

Mama’s Writing is Raising Mothers’ monthly interview series, curated by Deesha Philyaw.

Are there days when you feel like a mother who writes, and others when you feel like a writer who is a mother? 

I always feel like a writer who is also a mother.

I think it’s funny because my first book and my first baby were born in the same year, 2001. But the book (Hair Story) came first in February and my son was born in June of that year. And while I’ve always known I wanted to be a mother, I claimed my identity as a writer when I was eight years old. 

Who are your writer-mama heroes? 

I remember sitting on a panel talking about this topic and I had two young children at the time. I was completely at a loss for what I could add to the conversation about being a competent writer and a good mother so I Googled “writers with children” or something like that and discovered Jodi Picoult had three kids. At the time that sounded like a lot of kids, considering Jodi Picoult puts out like a book every year, or at least it seemed that way. Anyway, she seemed like a very down-to-earth person who had figured out how to write and mother in a productive way, so she’s a person I often thought of when my kids were younger and I needed inspiration. But I wouldn’t call her a hero of mine; rather, she was an example of what’s possible. 

But in reality, almost all of the women writers I most admire and love are also mothers. Chief among them, Maya Angelou, Isabel Allende and Bernice McFadden. But if I’m not mistaken, these women all only had one child. 

What’s your least favorite thing about being a mother? 

As a writer, particularly, I resent the fact that I can’t claim my own time without feeling guilty. I would love to spend hours and days wrapped up in my writing, but I can’t in good conscience act like it’s okay to ignore my children. My boys are older and I know they’d be okay now if I disappeared into my work, but my daughter, who is only ten, would be devastated. 

What fictional mother do you most admire?

I read so much it’s hard to choose one mother that I most admire, but I will answer this question with a fictional mother who is truly admirable. And that is the main character in Lauren Francis-Sharma’s epic new novel, Book of the Little Axe. We meet Rosa Rendón when she’s still a child in her native Trinidad, but by the end of the book she’s a mother raising her son in the American midwest as the wife of a Native American tribal chief. And the lengths she goes to help her son understand who he is, is beyond admirable. Her sacrifice and strength as a mother gutted me. 

What fictional mother gets on your nerves? 

So, there are probably other fictional mothers who get on my nerves, but the most recent fictional mother who annoyed me to no end was Stella Vignes, from Brit Bennett’s The Vanishing Half. Stella was the twin sister who abandoned her family and passed for white, creating a new life for herself in Los Angeles. She was a horrible, selfish mother and a horrible sister and daughter. I wanted to shake her throughout the entire novel. And even though I didn’t like her daughter in the book either, I felt sorry for her because she had Stella for a mother.

What’s the best motherhood advice you’ve ever gotten?

You can have it all, just not at the same time. I remember a woman told this to me when I was at a writing conference. She was in her early 50s at the time, I was in my early 30s. She was about to go on a writing retreat for one month to work on her novel. I was so jealous because I knew I couldn’t leave my kids for a whole month to work on the book I was working on at the time.

I tried to argue that my kids would want me to be happy. That they’d understand if I disappeared for a month, but this very wise woman told me that wasn’t true. “Your kids want their mommy at home with them.” But she went on to tell me that one day my kids would be old enough for me to leave them alone for months at a time. At that moment I remember feeling like being a mother meant I had to sacrifice all of my personal dreams, but soon after that conference, I got the opportunity to do a week-long writing retreat and it was just perfect because I missed my kids as much as they missed me.

It’s been almost 20 years since I received that sage advice and in retrospect, I really do feel like I’ve “had it all;” three kids, a career I love, several books published, and most recently, a move abroad. The secret really is to live in the moment you’re in and know your gifts are coming in due time, not all at once. 

What’s the worst motherhood advice you’ve ever gotten?

Don’t dress your boys in pink or let them play with dolls. Needless to say, I ignored that advice.

Lori L. Tharps is a storyteller whose work lands at the intersection of race and real life. She is the author of five books of nonfiction including, Hair Story:Untangling the Roots of Black Hair in America (St. Martin’s) Kinky Gazpacho:Life, Love and Spain (Atria) and Same Family, Different Colors: Confronting Colorism in America’s Diverse Families (Beacon). She is also the author of the novel, Substitute Me (Atria).  Lori is the mother of three children and recently relocated from Philadelphia to the South of Spain. She blogs about her multicultural life at She can be found on Instagram @LoriLTharps

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Deesha Philyaw’s debut short story collection, The Secret Lives of Church Ladies, won the 2021 PEN/Faulkner Award for Fiction, the 2020/2021 Story Prize, and the 2020 LA Times Book Prize: The Art Seidenbaum Award for First Fiction and was a finalist for the 2020 National Book Award for Fiction. The Secret Lives of Church Ladies focuses on Black women, sex, and the Black church, and is being adapted for television by HBO Max with Tessa Thompson executive producing. Deesha is also a Kimbilio Fiction Fellow.